Meaning to use your device you need to have a contractual relationship with a foreign (unless you ar...read more

Every day we stray farther from the premise that we should be allowed to install / modify software o...read more

The funny thing is Stallman started his fight like half a century ago and on regular days Hacker New...read more

Official announcement: https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2025/08/elevating-...More info:http...read more

If this is a thing then the solution they offer is incorrect. A big giant red screen: “warning the i...read more

This is really bad. I think that most people on HN will agree with that.The problem is that most nor...read more

The worst part is the Orwellian opening sentence they start with in their blog post [0]:> You should...read more

As someone who never comments on HN, I would like to voice my absolute disapproval of this new polic...read more

So that's it then.If this actually goes through, there will be no option in the mobile OS market for...read more

Even aside from the privacy implications (which aren't trivial themselves,)Doesn't this make it proh...read more

The article didn't say much about the account approval process, but from the looks of it Google will...read more

We have 2 ecosystems for mobile and the worst case scenario is starting to be clear for Android.I lo...read more

The reason I chose the Android ecosystem over the Apple ecosystem, once I found out that the Maemo/M...read more

Thank you, all HNers at Google, for continuing to work there.And yes, before you ask, I have persona...read more

Makes sense why they had to get rid of the "don't be evil" motto. They've been on a roll.I've seen a...read more

I never really got into "phone" progrmaming, always waiting for the shenanigans to die down. But som...read more

If this is enforced via Play Protect, then the whole mechanism can likely be disabled with: adb s...read more

> Google will begin to verify the identities of developers distributing their apps on Android device...read more

They have the ecosystem by the balls. Phone manufacturers in recent years have been making unlocking...read more

How did we let this happen?Oh, yes... Actually I remember: it was a long slow series of accepting sm...read more

We shouldn't accept "sideloading" as a term. It's meant to make "installing an app without monopoli...read more

I always wonder, who are the developers doing this? don't they feel bad about going through with the...read more

> Google notes “supportive initial feedback” from government authorities and other parties:Ah, then ...read more

It will be interesting to see how they handle packages from the various f-droid repos. F-droid build...read more

This is the worst thing to happen to technology in recent times since there is only two major phone ...read more

> Google wants to combat “convincing fake apps”Google can't even stop the scam ai companion apps on ...read more

DO NOT UPLOAD YOUR ID/INFO TO GOOGLE. I put my game on their app store some years ago, and they dox...read more

Few my ideas about how things will be going- platforms are going to be forced to collect more data a...read more

The core benefit of Android over iOS for me has always been that it's my device, not Google's.They'v...read more

They saw Apple getting away with notarization under the DMA so they're doing the same. I must admit ...read more

I think this might backfire in that it might be enough to prompt technical people to seriously start...read more

When people say just use Linux I can only think of what was known as far back as 2014.> NSA: Linux J...read more

Oh, no! This is the least thing I expected to see as the #1 in Hacker News' front page!This is a plo...read more

I cannot resist the urge to point out that we wouldn't have had this problem if people actually stic...read more

Android's ability to run binaries outside of the Google Play Store is a key differentiator of their ...read more

This is the same direction that Microsoft is taking Windows. Smart App Control is already rolling ou...read more

I've grown increasingly hateful towards both my Android and iOS devices over the last decade. The pl...read more

If your businesses idea doesn't work without you being evil, you deserve to go bankrupt. I perceive ...read more

What was the last time there were some actually good news in big tech? For those that don't hold sto...read more

So people from countries US has sanctioned can't even develop and use mobile apps anymore. This will...read more

Google is doing everything in their power to make me move to an iphone... between shit like this, ef...read more

This is crazy. I can't install my own apps on my own phone anymore.I am gonna start carrying around ...read more

I don't blame Goggle. Apple escaped anti-trust by simply not allowing anyone except themselves to pu...read more

Time for a Steam Phone. Or FirefoxOS reloaded. The general purpose mobile computing market must be s...read more

> developers will have the same freedom to distribute their apps directly to users through sideloadi...read more

Ha ha very funny from no-evil-google. The worst most misbehaving apps I've ever had the misfortune o...read more

The solution is easy, stop developing for (selling on) closed platforms:You now have options for che...read more

This is completely, absolutely and totally unacceptable.My phone is my phone, not Google’s. They ha...read more

My favourite part of this thread is that the Google pr team know it's bad and aren't even attempting...read more

Obviously Google considered and prepared for a huge negative feedback when they have made this decis...read more

As a developer of android apps that get distributed outside of the Play store, a Google identity ver...read more

I predict Windows will end up going this route before Google backtracks on it.This is the future; pa...read more

These days I don't really want a smartphone at all, but begrudgingly use one for things like mobile ...read more

A few years from now: After reviewing the usage of the approved sideloading feature, we discovered n...read more

A little reminder about the GNU definition of free software and the four freedoms:https://www.gnu.or...read more

I don’t have data to support this, but I believe the smartphone is the most widely used device globa...read more

So what are our options (eg for EU citizens) for lobbying in terms of legislation or directly to Goo...read more

I knew this was coming thanks to the nincompoops bankers and IMDA together with horny uncles who fal...read more

Looks like Google will also be limiting each developer's number of apps and installations unless you...read more

I used to be an android developer and they disable my account because I took too long to reply to th...read more

Mobile phone platforms are reverting back to the pre-iOS/Android reality where you have to jump thro...read more

Sideloading is the only reason I'm on Android. When it goes away, I will be better with an Apple dev...read more

This must be because of Epic's win in antitrust court.What someone needs to do is create a "Store" b...read more

Play Integrity and device attestation need their own torrent-tracker moment, just like DRM did.Graph...read more

It's starting to look like I may end up with two phones. One with Lineage and most of my apps, hopef...read more

This is how macOS works, without a signature they will tell you they can't guarantee it doesn't have...read more

(Responding to https://techcrunch.com/2025/08/25/google-will-require-develo... )> Starting next year...read more

So where do we complain? (Aside from shaming Google on social media or writing to politicians.)If I ...read more

There is a guy with beard that people love to hate that warned about this kind of thing.Of course pe...read more

Please consider using GrapheneOS. If it gets more momentum and users it's the only option pushing ba...read more

> The requirement will go into effect in September 2026 for users in Brazil, Indonesia, Singapore, a...read more

So what's the solution? What's the reaction of semiofficial Android forks? Should we switch to Huawe...read more

What would happen to projects like F-Droid, Termux, etc.?

Yeah... They just want to ban NewPipe. It's sad to see Android getting locked down, also with the so...read more

Time to donate to GrapheneOS[1] and alternatives[2]. Or contribute [3].[1] https://grapheneos.org/do...read more

Will it be possible to bypass this limitation for users with rooted devices? If that were the case t...read more

Everybody DEMANDS Google "do something" about malware, scam and fake apps. So it does.For an average...read more

The only silver lining I see is if it allows you to bypass this by enabling dev mode on your phone. ...read more

I think time quickly approaches when everyone will have one mobile phone for "banking/crypto" and th...read more

Well, I guess I didn't want to use half of the apps on my phone anyway. Might as well throw the phon...read more

Why is this story not on the front page any more? It has the most points and the most important issu...read more

The attempts to roll out digital ID are similar to the perennial efforts to backdoor encryption. Whe...read more

There's an Android app called GPSLogger.[1] It does exactly what it says on the tin. Runners use it ...read more

This is dangerous, they are trying to prevent people from creating apps that don't support their nar...read more

This was probably the reason Nokia died. Symbian development, already cumbersome and app deployment ...read more

Sep.2026: "The requirement goes into effect in Brazil, Indonesia, Singapore, and Thailand. At this p...read more

Hopefully this increases the communal pressure to find a real alternative to android.

The details are paramount, and they are missing here.Some of us code our .APK, then do an `adb insta...read more

So "certified" Android devices are phasing out side loading, making Google Play the only way to inst...read more

This is crazy, this means 10 years from now only terrorists will distribute software. Unacceptable! ...read more

From the article: In Brazil, the Brazilian Federation of Banks (FEBRABAN) sees it as a “significant...read more

Well, there are two options now: Linux phones and forking/deGoogling Android. I still believe the se...read more

The new face of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.

The device maker controlling an app store made no sense always. Its like saying the browser maker c...read more

Welp, I was euphemistically already not a fan of the developer experience for Android, now it's stra...read more

My device, i want to install whatever i want.If for safety, make it an opt-out feature, so the ones ...read more

Google to make sideloading Android apps _harder_ by _force_ verifying developer identity for 25$ and...read more

Time to move to a dumb phone, I guess. Android is slowly becoming worst of both worlds, none of the ...read more

Considering that Android 5 devices are still alive and well, it will take another 10 years for googl...read more

One can only hope a company like Framework, Nothing, or Fairphone actually can produce and maintain ...read more

This is just an extension of the increasing censorship and government / BigTech control that we have...read more

> To combat malware and financial scams, GoogleNot 75%, not 80% and not 90% but literal 100% of adds...read more

Would be the best time for China to come out with a fully open source OS as competition.

Here's my prediction: Sideloading will become slightly more popular. Google will not disable sideloa...read more

Everytime i read a news like this i loose more hope for our world to not end up a Cyberpunk Dystopia...read more

Does this break F-Droid?

That's not a good move at all.

I think they got emboldened by EU's impotent response to Apple's Digital Markets Act (DMA) violation...read more

Software developer used to be one of the most 'free' professions. But now you need a stamp of approv...read more

Well that sucks. So basically all the money weve had taken from us for our play store apps is now "j...read more

Android is dead. With fascism now in power in the US I was going to save myself by degoogling my lif...read more

One step closer to The Right to Read: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html

This is disheartening.I feel as an Android user, you've always had to put up with a more incoherent ...read more

Hmm this is weird. I've recently been considering switch back to Android because of how locked down ...read more

If you think about it, the only thing that keeps this OS vendor in this duopolistic position is the ...read more

This is why OS is so important for LLMs and the AI ecosystem in general.Its also why we should not t...read more

Gotta love when the megacorp steps in to "help".

Time for Linux phones with Android emulation

This is a result of the current tech being filled with dark design patterns. Tech is designed to be ...read more

I really need the more open Linux tablet and phone makers to hurry up.

It would be really nice if all you people with deep insight into this issue would inform politicians...read more

The are apk's floating around from the Ice Cream Sundae days where the developer went out of busines...read more

It is telling that they have not yet released the process for hobbyists and students. While it is cl...read more

>Android will require all apps to be registered by verified developers in order to be installed by u...read more

This will also open the door for targeting you specifically with spyware if software can only be ins...read more

They cannot solve all problems but thank God we have Progressive Web Apps; long-term, I guess there ...read more

Why even run Android at that point anymore? iOS devices get security updates for longer and have muc...read more

Google (and Apple) want to turn the idea of a phone and computer into that of a gaming console. You...read more

This means even more influence to Chinese phone makers which don't bother themselves with compliance...read more

The further into this corporatized "vision" of technology we go, the more I relate the elves in LoTR...read more

One of the reasons I switched to Android was the freedom to make apks for my phone and not dealing w...read more

It was only a matter of time. The run lasted a good while.I'm not going to submit to this crap. I'm ...read more

That's it! I'm out! Had every pixel from the beginning but I think I'm going Iphone so at least peop...read more

We are in an age that being screwed by the Giant Techs is inevitable and there is pretty nothing muc...read more

Well, when that happens it is finally goodbye to Android from me. I am switching to iOS that day.

Remind me why we keep using smart phones? They feel like a noose around our collective necks.

The D-U-N-S requirement is the real killer here. It's a business identifier that costs money and req...read more

I have a horror thought: "We cannot validate your identity as you are of the wrong nationality; ther...read more

If I have to be in handcuffs, I would rather them be high-quality hardware like Apple. So far, the o...read more

Things done 'for the sake of security' often conflict with a vast majority of good actors that benef...read more

We have to find a way to punish Google if they move forward with this. We need the Gemini folks to b...read more

This is why I started investing in alternative Linux based solution providers in the smartphone mark...read more

"A recent analysis by the company found that there are “over 50 times more malware from internet-sid...read more

Now and then I remember this Hyperion book by Dan Simmons where everyone had a cross-like gadget glu...read more

Disgusting, horrifying, but utterly predictable. A dark day indeed, once no major mobile platform al...read more

I've been saying in threads on iOS vs Android for years how we're lucky the only other phone OS out ...read more

Can Google do something like this for entities wishing to advertise on their platform?It feels as if...read more

Apple and Google are now competing on being more closed, rather than on being more open. Perhaps bec...read more

I use linux on nearly all my PCs / servers. I do think about moving my phone to more open platform (...read more

This is what Apple already does, isn't it? Why wouldn't it work for Google too?

Somehow I can run a webserver and anyone can browse it but if I make an app I need a DUNS number? Wh...read more

> This requirement applies to “certified Android devices” that have Play Protect and are preloaded w...read more

This truly sucks, since in this day and age we need unmodified phones for banking apps (and I think ...read more

I think the push for verified developers is a double-edged sword. I got into this space, precisely b...read more

Wouldn't developers be the most powerful protesters?Stop making or maintaining Android apps. Make ap...read more

I saw this coming a mile away. Everyone said you could install whatever you wanted on Android, but y...read more

Next is your ID card to contribute to FLOSS projects, not like they thought about it to "secure the ...read more

These companies need to be destroyed by antitrust violations. I am so tired of these tech companies ...read more

For example Telegram they have two app versions one in playstore where google can dictate what chann...read more

Android is getting more closed and iOS more open, I expect more people dissatisfied from both camps....read more

I wonder if this was hastened by groups like DJI, who are too popular to be bound by a silly app sto...read more

first they avoided publishing drivers (makers), then gutted unlocking bootloader, and now this...can...read more

Most Android apps are crapware anyways. The only respectful apps that I know are open-source, and ar...read more

The page about developer verification (announcement link 2 in the root post) says that there will be...read more

I see opportunity for a Google "certified/verified" Android phone with mediocre CPU, average screen ...read more

The desire for people to keep using their currently working devices just got much bigger, and yet an...read more

terrible news. i dont like it a bit. wth are they doing? i know all they care about is money but thi...read more

Holy shit, going to the official page[1], there's something that is somehow even worse than the loss...read more

Glad I still have time to cancel my Pixel 10 preorder. Fuck google

What does it mean to app developers like me? if I want to create an app, in however shape and form a...read more

As much as people are making this out to be a Google thing, I think this is more about the security ...read more

as a general philosophy, anything that I can do on the Web I do it using a browser. The less apps I ...read more

> Google wants to combat “convincing fake apps” and make it harder for repeat “malicious actors to q...read more

Some cross platform iOS/Android apps I use have been retired or discontinued because of this ruling....read more

This seems equivalent to Notarization on macOS. https://developer.apple.com/documentation/security/n...read more

Will this affect GrapheneOS users who have Play Protect / Services disabled? Wondering how they inte...read more

The problem here is that the EU, which would normally be the only hope to put a stop to bullshit lik...read more

I rely on an open source app called xDrip to manage my diabetes. It's way way way better than any of...read more

I know Android apps are already in a pretty tight security environment. Perhaps they could put unsig...read more

While I like to jump on the Google bash train as much as anyone, this is to comply with EU laws.Appl...read more

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They want to stop adblocking YouTube apps

Fuck google for this. Awful decision. Guaranteed to be abused when Google or government despots deci...read more

Will this be what finally leads to the success of a fully open-source Android fork such as CalyxOS o...read more

Are there any competing phone OS'es still around? Maybe there is something in China I dont have a vi...read more

This would affect a lot apps that are not on the Play Store for multiple reasons... and if I'm going...read more

Anyone else remembers “don’t be evil”?

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I pin a webapp to my homescreen, open it and pay without any issues. Aren't webapps the way around t...read more

Nobody will do anything about it and things will continue to get worse.

I'm waiting for this with chromium too. Microsoft Edge most removed uBlock Origin on me today.

I'm surprised so many people would be impacted by this. Why bet your livelihood on a corporate spons...read more

So for our non public company apps I will now have to verify? What.

There's a huge modding scene out there, people who modify APK's to strip them of bad features, make ...read more

While my confidence is usually pretty low with random repos, I am fairly sure there are more malware...read more

Is that after the top execs join the US Army? [0]0: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44330155

It's only a question of time till DMCA takedowns will be abused to being down every app which remote...read more

Meanwhile, I suppose a big "rollback" will needed in EU for the DMA (Digital Markets Act)

There goes the dream of ai allowing normal people to develop cool stuff. Talk about 'big company' st...read more

When I switched from Android to iOS, this was one of the things I missed a lot: the ability to write...read more

So Android is just iOS now.

It seems that it was only about time… it just feels like the pace of enshittification with big tech ...read more

With Chat Control and similar measures on the way, we are one step closer to your hardware actively ...read more

"Monopolies" gonna monopolize, all for our safety, of course

GOOGLE SHMOOGLE IM WITH PEWDS We have to rebuild and replace this entire stack NOW! It’s out of cont...read more

OK, fine, but how will I build and launch an APK through android studio / flutter?

The day is coming when I just turn off my phone and leave it in a drawer 90% of the time.

Fuck google.This combined with the 'age verification' coming to all Google properties means it is a ...read more

I'd wager there will be a buried setting to manually enable specific apps along with a warning. Like...read more

Blame Apple for this garbage. They have paved the way by trying to circumvent the DMA.Hopefully the ...read more

Stallman warned us.https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.en.html

How does this affect installing an APK to an offline device?Will there be a local override?

The Play Store is full of certified verified malware. How is this going to help? This is all about c...read more

Great. I suspect this will push more developers to publish web apps.

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Pieces of shit.I have several own-built apps which I use for different purposes only on my own devic...read more

So that's how they kill newpipe.

Maybe we need phone sized open source computers.The only saving grace is you can always import a Chi...read more

I'm not a fan of restricting sideloading. But i do hope they get better at not offering malware in t...read more

My son uses an android phone as a medical device with apps that are either downloaded or compiled. H...read more

How to do this?

I see how this is developing. First going more or less close source and then reeling in the freedom ...read more

Guys, it's been over for a while now. And I mean decades... This is just one of the next steps in th...read more

If I wanted only apps signed by developers I'd use Playstore.

Just like force pushing Manifest v3 on Chrome/Chromium, this is a step towards 'more security', from...read more

So Google won't even offer a system toggle to let users install an app they've made or copied?Google...read more

>However, developers who appreciated the anonymity of alternative distribution methods will no longe...read more

aside from the obvious power grab, the official announcement mentions that there were discussions ab...read more

does this kill F-droid? can you build apks outside of google play and sign them with Google Play CA?

With more and more things like this, we need to back to making native apps on desktops and laptops w...read more

Guess I'm getting an iPhone. If both are locked down, I may as well have the one that has a decent w...read more

This isn't a big deal to me because I hate smartphones and do everything on PC anyways. The real pro...read more

You can just disable Play Protect though, can't you?

This deplorable company has just condemned humanity's right to open computing. They sold themselves ...read more

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I assume that this is Google's way of circumventing the DSA?

Remind me again why we can't use HTTPS certificates to sign code that is linked with a domain?

Maybe it is time for a new entry into the Smartphone OS market?

This has the potential to be disastrous for Google, but maybe not.Personally: I don't use Apple beca...read more

This means that for example I will not be able to side load Popcorn Time for Android [1] anymore?[1]...read more

I'm curious how this is gonna fly considering the DMA in the EU.

How much is the verification going to cost?If it's something simple like $100, that's not a big deal...read more

I'm curious what is going to happen to all those Chinese ROMs and third-party Chinese app stores.

Great news which hopefully will shape the buyer away from monopolies.

Phew! I was just about to get the new Pixel too, not going to now. I wonder if Samsung will be effec...read more

You know how folks in the UK are cutting the surveillance cameras, what is the equivalent here?

GrapheneOS.

You will soon be viewed as a criminal if you run a custom ROM / flavour of Android.What the fuck is ...read more

They are following appleIts good and bad at the same time imho.

goodbye newpipe :(

I hate to break the news to Google, but this will likely be ruled illegal. The relevant German news ...read more

On the side, I'm even more sad because I feel like the open web can't be the alternative answer to l...read more

We really need a third alternative when it comes to mobile

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What about webapps?

wow that rather fast [https://ibb.co.com/8LF8qdxm]I already got popup in dashboard this morning

Never, I'll stick to LineageOS till it ceases to exist.. then I'll just buy a dumbphone, f... Google...read more

Juggling between Maemo and iOS back in the day I always thought it was so wild that I later years pe...read more

Well this is me moving to E/OS full time.

Yeah if this goes ahead I'm going back to my feature phone

That was one of the last reasons I had an android phone for.Switch to Iphone now? Maybe the in crowd...read more

Well I guess that's good bye Pixel and Android for me then.

This is the final nail in the coffin for personal computing

What does this mean for projects like Grapheneos, or fdroid?

To everyone working at Big Tech: you should be ashamed of helping those oligarchs make their plans r...read more

I see... I guess it's just... web apps then?

I think there are some errors when trying, but it should be fixed soon.

SteamOS. It's up to you.

Time for normalizing obtanium

"To combat malware and financial scams"What a horrible, terrible, depressing bag of lies that the an...read more

Feels like Google is either following Apple's playbook from iPhone OS 1, or they're working together...read more

So, FairPhone with a new OS then?

This doesn't seem to be going over well.

Any developer working on this ought to be ostracised, divorced and shunned by their family.

Google doesnt like competition when it comes to selling you out

> Since we implemented verification requirements on Google Play in 2023, we have seen firsthand how ...read more

Smartphones are over for me.

This reminds me of Microsoft's Project Palladium, 20 years ago. This was the ancestor of TPMs and tr...read more

Just going to leave this here for the canadians: https://competition-bureau.canada.ca/en/contact-com...read more

Google welcome to Apple 10 years ago

This isn't legal in the EU is it?

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if we continue this direction, in a couple of years, a feature phone might be an excellent choice!

This is another "beginning of the end." All eyes are on this situation and how much push back it get...read more

It occurs to me this may have occurred in some way at the behest of the Trump administration, as a w...read more

The day this happens is the day I stop using "certified Android devices."

Tech like f-droid will be important for the future of free Android

what a betrayal. I'm done with android.

Additionally, this kills apps like Revanced, NewPipe, SmartTube that will now be required to give ou...read more

Of course they will. It started with Play Integrity and hardware remote attestation. Soon Android wi...read more

From the announcement> our recent analysis found over 50 times more malware from internet-sideloaded...read more

Oh how I wish I could buy a Nokia N900 16 Pro Max and use Maemo 13

"Google to prevent users from installing programs on Android phones."This might do more good than ha...read more

Dick move. Go back to "do no evil" big G. Remember how you used to be the kool kid on the block? Now...read more

How will this affect GrapheneOS?

Okay, so Android is dead to me then.

The ability to sideload on Android is the main reason I've never bought an iPhone. This is a terribl...read more

This will be just another boost for de-googled phones, alternative platforms and potentially Mobile ...read more

This is the singular reason why I moved to Android in the first place. I want to install whatever AP...read more

Extremely retarded. "Think of the children" all over again in the guise of "Think of the misinformat...read more

These people. I don't have words.I'm getting ready to give up on smartphones altogether. I used to t...read more

I have been preparing myself psychologically for this for a long time. I will have to carry a shitty...read more

This is a dangerous thing to do! This severely limits the freedom of the internet. At this point, we...read more

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So I guess I'll need to make sure I get a device that isn't certified Android?

I think it would be ok if it was not for the fact that Google will most likely abuse it for other pu...read more

Malware is just an excuse to kill of competition. This is textbook anti-competitive behaviour.

I don't get it. Does this stop me from sideloading apps?

Our only choice are 2 american companies, Google or AppleWhy did we let that happen?

This eliminates the appeal of andoid over ios.

Maybe its time to stop using an OS developed by an advertising company.

This aligns with their AOSP recent changes.

This is actually good if it hopefully paves way for breaking them up

Sorry, folks, the good times are over. The future of computing is a signed, attested chain of trust ...read more

If this goes through, would it be possible to see a consumer class-action lawsuit? I imagine there i...read more

So much for people preaching Android as an alternative to Apple's walled garden. Enshittification ad...read more

This phase from the last couple of years just had to come - and while it's painful to be exposed to ...read more

Google is really turning into a dystopian company, destroying any goodwill their virtuous employees ...read more

Squeeze, Raban. Squeeze hard.

> Google is explicit today about how “developers will have the same freedom to distribute their apps...read more

Relevant as always: https://youtu.be/ntICHMV-WMA?t=38

shamefulwas a reason I bought Android. will they be sending me a refund?

Imagine you develop a VPN app that specifically helps people evade government censorship.Everyone ca...read more

I wonder, how hard is it to build an app on the phone from source?

Absolutely disgusting. No reason to keep using Android then.

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.en.html

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Totally deserved with how pathetically complacent and uncurious our society has become. We had it co...read more

Source: https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2025/08/elevating-... (https://news.ycombinator.co...read more

Hopefully we get another EU action here soon, to put them back in their place.

So, now there will be a single kill switch where a malicious government can legally compel Google to...read more

And once again our only hope is Elon Musk bringing out a competing smartphone ecosystem that is actu...read more

Boooo. Fuck this noise! Might as well run iOS at this point, unless your use case needs Android only...read more

I don't understand, when the EU announced that Apples "actually we need to sign all of these and pay...read more

I can’t say I’m surprised; but I am disappointed.

Okay so that removes the last reason to use Android.This is just another 'it's only about money' mov...read more

What the hell is a verified developer lol

has anyone had to help any elderly relative with the million scams they've downloaded from google's ...read more

Could someone explain why the personal privacy of software developers is more important than the cyb...read more

Keep your phone. All you have to do is say no to digital for:- money - tickets - identificationThe...read more

Anyone even remotely privacy or security conscious needs to vote with their wallet in protest and st...read more

Gives me another reason to use Custom ROM

Imagine MS doing the same for Windows.It’s sad that smartphones now hold so much personal and privat...read more

Another instalment of HN thread where people try their best to pretend that "security" does not com...read more

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Sorry, we're getting rid of Revanced, Newpipe, Xmanager, etc. for your own good. Just like how Manif...read more

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TL;DR If you're not using Linux by now, do yourself a favor and start. You could do worse than start...read more

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Well time to make sure mobile Linux is accessible so the blind users aren't the only ones left when ...read more

Year of mobile Linux OS? /s

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Maybe Elon Musk can save us /s

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Everybody complaining of this is admitting they are doing nefarious actions. Those of us playing by ...read more

Before quickly running to dismiss this move, please at least do your research with regards to the si...read more